Posts by life is to short

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Post cataract surgery Great News!

by Lady Lee in

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my vision before the surgery was 20/60 in the eye that has had the surgery.

i saw my eye dr today and it has moved up to 20/30.

this is way beyond what i expected.

But, they're so HAPPY!

by stillin in

you can't deny it.

smiling and brimming with good cheer.

is it sort of like the person who buys a lemon of a car and won't admit it?

I too put on a happy face, I would make the comments that you never have a bad day in field service doing Jehovah's work. That this is not the real life and that we should pioneer now as we will have forever in the new system.

I told everyone I was so happy but I was dying inside. I thought about suicide almost every waking minute while I went door to door. My husband and I never had a family as he was always busy being an elder. Looking back I truly remember no happy times but I lied to myself and believed the lie. I was so depressed it was unreal and I did not know where or how to get help.

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Taking Elders Out of their Comfort Zone; The Little Room

by TMS in

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in the mid-90's my wife faced a bogus charge of gossiping.

the charge was based on a fleshly sister of a jw easedropping on a conversation.

we fought the charge with the elders unable to produce any credible report of the actual conversation.

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OTWO I know that elders are not to talk to sisters alone and I knew it then also, I kick myself for going into the room alone but it happened a lot to me and I truly thought that it was God's true religion and I had nothing to fear.

I was so wrong, the elders loved to get me alone and say hurtful things to me which when I brought up to others what the elder had said to me the elders quickly denied everything. I look back now and am amazed at what all happened to me. Even my husband allowing it as after the huge battle over the pedophile and my being told I had to accept him as a brother in the truth or ELSE I went to talk to the than PO COBE at his home this was just in 2010. This guy was OLD in his early 90's but his mind was sharp. He sent his wife out of the room so it was just him and myself. He just started LYING. Telling me I was making up everything from my own abuse, that he knew my father and he knew my father never abused me. Than he went on to the fact that the pedophile never raped kids. He was saying that the pedophile deserved a chance and I was causing divisions in the hall by my dislike of the child molester.

I had brought my Bible with me and I was showing him scriptures from the Bible which ticked him off to no end as I was just a women how dare I.

He finally starting shaking and told me I was a woman who needed to know her place in the hall and I was stepping out of LINE.

Why I allowed myself to be lead into the backroom alone and why I went with them I cannot answer now. Never in a million years would I allwow myself to be treated that way now. And why my husband did not flip seeing me crying my eyes out over how horrible they talked to me is mind boggling to me now why did he not throw a fit when he saw me alone with these elders? I just think we were both kind of blind sided by it all. My husband could not and still is having a hard time seeing the reality that they hid pedophiles in the hall even through it is right in front of him. We just got into a fight about it again last night in that they have reinstated the pedophile and he is back going door to door, but it is in the next hall over and my husband is swearing to me that NOW the pedophile is going flanked by three to four elders. I was so flipped out last night fighting with my husband over it, how stupid can my husband be. I told him it never happened in our hall but he said the other hall is different. Yeh right. And why does a pedophile need to go door to door flanked by three to four men????????????????????????????????

I was just such a true believer that I never thought something like this would happen. My husband thought he knew these men they were his fellow elders and they way they turned on him also was amazing and why my husband still goes to the meetings and puts himself around this sucm drives me crazy. These elders could care less about my husband when he had his heart attacks they still kept dumping on him all of the stuff that they as elders would not do. All the ones in the hall who had problems my husband was the one who the elders gave these people to because these elders needed to spend time with their family's and they just did not have the energy to handle the crazies in the hall they can only help the pedophiles.

What I cannot understand is why the elders put themselves to be alone with me. They were the ones who initiated talking to me alone. I never asked to speak to any elder alone. They were the ones dragging me into the backroom and the friends in the hall saw it and yet said nothing! Then they said I was crazy and I was mentally ill and I was insane.

I truly felt I was going crazy as they denied, denied, denied, denied, denied everything they said to me alone, it was so crazy making I could not wrap my mind around it.

I really think in my heart that they were trying to drive me insane or to have me commit suicide but for what reason I do not understand.

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Taking Elders Out of their Comfort Zone; The Little Room

by TMS in

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in the mid-90's my wife faced a bogus charge of gossiping.

the charge was based on a fleshly sister of a jw easedropping on a conversation.

we fought the charge with the elders unable to produce any credible report of the actual conversation.

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I have had experiences very similar to your wife's. When the pedophile first moved in the hall I attended my husband was an elder, the school overseer. Yet it did not stop the other elders from talking to me alone in the back room and unlike your wife I went along with it, oh how I wish I had not gone along with the elders in talking to them alone. I will never forget this one time when the attorney elder we have in the hall got really mad at me and told me to come with him. He yanked me into the back room alone and started to yell at me telling me that my husband and I made him look bad and he did not like that. He felt he had egg on his face and NO ONE EVER MADE HIM LOOK LIKE HE HAD EGG ON HIS FACE AND WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT!!!

Now mind you I was alone with this elder in the back room, it was now my word against his of anything he said. I started crying as I was so blindsided by his anger and he was PISSED AT ME!I was really a true believer and I never thought in a million years this could be happening. I went home that night and tried to commit suicide by taking to many sleeping pills. I never told my husband that I took the pills.

My husband walked in and asked what we were doing alone in the back room together and this elder glared at me, told my husband he was washing his hands of us and stormed out of the room. But this elder wasn't done his goal was to destroy me and drive me from the hall so he could keep the pedophile in. Which he did.

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Hate Crime against Members of a Congregation

by cantleave in

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i recieved this email from an active witness regarding "hate crimes" against members of the congregation he/she attends.

it is interesting as to how the elders are dealing with it.. .

for some time our hall has been suffering minor vandalism.

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It happened to me when we were first married there was a MS who was DF'ed and he threatened to come over and kill my elder husband. I truly believed he meant it. My husband down played it and said the guy was all talk but my husband did call an elder in the next hall over to try to calm down. The other elder called back after being on the phone with this DF'ed MS and told us to get out of the house as he thought the guy meant it. My husband would not leave and so I spent a sleepless night worried sick. The next moring at field service this guys wife said he had guns loaded and he was walking out the door with the other elder called him, he was going to come over and kill us both I have not a doubt.

That morning my husband called Bethel and asked what to do. The first person my husband spoke to at Bethel told us to go straight to the police so as we were walking out the door to go to the police station the phone rang just as I was locking the door, oh how I wish I had not answered it. It was Bethel calling back and a different guy at Bethel told my husband under no way were we to get the police involved. We were to leave it in Jehovah's hand.

The MS went on to stalk me for the rest of the time we lived there over two years. Threatening to kill me and my husband, calling when I was home alone while my husband was at elder meetings, telling me that he had killed my husband, etc. This guy came into where I worked and threatened to kill me and even my coworkers were scared. Everyone in the hall told me I was the one who was crazy and that I was making a big deal out of nothing including my hsuband.

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WT Society holds EXTREME Responsibility for 1975 and False Expectations

by flipper in

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however- many jw's who have come into the jw organization from like 1985 forward virtually may have no knowledge of the wt society's 1975 debacle and false predictions of the end times or armageddon predictions.

just like in in the book 1984 by george orwell the wt society has a way of not only erasing it's history so no newer witnesses will be aware of their false predictions, but also they are re-writing their history as if those false predictions never happened.. so for those of you here who may have never read or heard of how whipped up into an emotional frenzy witnesses were in the years just before 1975 by the wt society claiming the end was any day now- this threads for you.

to see the pressure that was put on jw's by the wt society to get rid of everything before " armageddon " .

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I totally remember it. "Stay alive till 75" It just makes my blood boil when I hear ones like the PO COBE's elder son who was born in 1978 say it was all made up and it never happened. He is now in his mid 30's and is saying to all of us who remember it are making it out to be more than it was and his COBE dad just sits there and lets him do it.

I was going to be 12 when 1975 was supposed to come, I was scared out of my mind. I thought Jehovah hated me because my parents hated me and I could not please Him anymore then I could make my parents happy. I guess I was like Calbe trying to not make Jehovah sad. I remember thinking when I was 9 years old that I had three years of life left then when I was 10 two years of life left I totally counted down the months to the end of my life at the age of 12. When the fall of 1975 came and went I was relived in so many ways but some ways I wished that Jehovah had just killed me as parents still hated me so much. Yet Jehovah gave my my parents and he would be so sad to know that I did not like them.

It just still makes me so mad to hear ones say that it never happened, I remember some of the JW's not going to the doctor when they were sick or this one elder who bought a set of tires for his car and he called them his Armageddon tires the last set he would ever have to buy in this system. Oh how I remember that time in my life and to be told that I made it up when I was just a child is so crazy making.

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Candace Conti v. Watchtower | March 11, 2013 | Watchtower Society Appeal Dismissed For Failure To File Opening Brief

by jwleaks in

edit correction:.

the court web site lisiting reflects the following below, but we have been informed that the watchtower society has been given yet another extension until march 26, 2013.. the below post will be left as is, for those who may have wondered what happened.. .

congratulations candace conti.

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That is what I was thinking March 26th is the Memorial. Maybe they are waiting on Jehovah!

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Part 1 of the 2013 Conti and Simons interview now on YouTube (questions posed by JWN members)

by cedars in

a while back we ran a "competition" whereby people could pose questions of candace conti and rick simons for them to answer in a video.. there were so many questions that we needed to do a series rather than just one video.

this first instalment is now on youtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhvfefpig4a.

here are the questions that were answered.... (to rick, asked by "exwhyzee") is there a possibility that part of the ruling, if you overcome the appeal, will be that the society must make an announcement outlining the details of the case to its members, as well as an apology to candace?.

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Thank you so much it really means a lot to have people like you Cedars on this board that are doing such a great job in letting us know what is happening.

I cannot express in words how much your posts and insight have meant to me, the way you reason and come to cconclusions on matters helps explain things so much easier for me and it has really helped me to reason with my husband, in fact he just watched this YouTube with me and thought it was very well done yet he is now getting ready to go to the meeting. Not that long ago he would never have even thought of watching something like this.

Just thank you so much for all of your hard work. I know you are helping people to see the TTATT better.

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The Time is More Important than Results

by OnTheWayOut in

on my way in to work this morning (saturday), at 6:05 am on a commercial business street in chicago, i saw two sisters and a brother bundled up in winter clothes and doing "street work.

" it wasn't that cold, so i guess they started even earlier when they needed their scarf and gloves.

there was absolutely nobody else walking and all the businesses were closed.

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That is what I truly hated about service. I really bought into it being a life saving work and I thought everyone else in the religion did too. I remember right in the middle of my awaking because of the pedophiles in my hall and I was still trying desperately to believe it was the "truth" I went out in service during the CO's visit and he used the illustration of our preaching work would be like our seeing a house on fire with people inside not knowing that their house was burning up. The CO said we would do what ever it took to wake up the people inside, to get them out, to save their lives. This is what we are doing by going door to door we are telling them this world is on fire and they need to wake up. This was in 2009. I remember thinking finally a CO that gets it. Oh how stupid I was it was all just hype.

Now looking back at all the times I went out in service it was just wasted time like you mentioned and I totally knew it and I tried to get the JW's I was with to do more but I was was helpless, no one wanted to really talk to anyone. I was always so frustrated.

I remember street work. It got so bad in the city I live in that the shops downtown started to complain as there were so many JW's just loitering around that the JW city overseer had to put a stop to it and assign congregations a day or two to do street work.

But the worst was when I pioneered. We lived in the country because a CO had asked my husband to go where the need was great. It was so much just a waste of time, gas, etc. We would meet for service pile five if not six people into our small Honda Civic which would be bottoming out at ever bump because of the weight. We would make a call in the small town we lived in to start our time then travel 70 to 80 miles over to the river where we would work the rule territory. I would be lucky if I got out of the car two times in the day and I was always stuck in the middle of the backseat because everyone was so huge and I was the smallest one. I just hated it with people pressing in on me from both side, and this one "brother" who would insist on sitting in my front seat would crank the heat up as high as he could. My husband did not want to offend him by asking he to keep it cooler. I would just be so sick to my stomach. We would spend five to six hours beating the heck out of our car then we would drive back home make a call and be able to count 8 to 10 hours. We burned through gas like it was water no one gave us a dime to help out. We put over 30,000 miles on a year on the car and I worked 30 to 35 hours a week just to pay for it all. I begged my husband to help change things but I was told it was the way it was at least the Angles saw what we were doing even if we never talked to anyone.

I was totally going crazy. I am a very active person who needs to fill full-filled in what ever I do and wasting my money this was was not full-filling in any way. When more elders moved into the hall I went to them and then the CO begging them to talk to the grocery store or anything to see if we could do a sort of street work in our small town but they thought that it would look silly. I was like and having five to six people in a small Honda Civic driving aimlessly looks sane???????????? And plus how are we saving lives???????? When we were not talking to anyone???????

I know realize that it is all just hot air, just talk about their thinking it is a life saving work. That CO in 2009 was just as much of a time waster as any of the others. His speach about the burning house was just a stupid ploy to make him feel better. He loved his coffee breaks more they trying to get people out of that burning house.

They just fool themselves and pat themselves on their backs thinking they are special when they are making total fools of themselves.

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Evil Elderettes, the true Hounds of Hell!

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

my wife was told a brother was going to be disfellowshiped, "how do you know this is going to happen?

" sister so-so said "he was not repentant or humble to the brother's kindness.

" instead of engaging into a heated debate, she knew who the leak was, so-so's husband.

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It was the same for me Magwitch. In many ways I was glad as the last thing I wanted was to no all the dirt, but it hurt because it was like he had this whole other life that was more important than anything especially me and I knew nothing of life which he spent a huge amount of time with. Our marriage was second, I was second. If he was needed he went no matter what our plans were or if I needed him, the congregation came first always.

It was like living with a man who had another wife and I was the second wife lesser on his priorities. And it really hurt when others in the hall assumed I knew everything and would try to get the dirt out of me or they would make snorky remarks about elder's wives gossiping.

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